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but i HATE him. i know his church is tiny and is made up of his relatives. i know he wouldn't even deserve notice EXCEPT for the fact he dishonors our war dead and those that loved them and gays and all other true americans. he causes pain to the innocent. i can laugh at him and call him a crank but i have not attended a funeral he has picketed. i of course believe in free speech but i also think allowing him and his anywhere NEAR a funeral is just plain wrong. there has to be something we can do about him.........without trodding upon OUR rights in the process (i wonder where he is getting the money to travel to all of these funerals in all of these different states?)
States Eye Picketing at Soldiers' Funerals
States Rush to Stop Fundamentalists From Picketing U.S. Soldiers' Funerals
By CARRIE SPENCER
The Associated Press
COLUMBUS, Ohio - States are rushing to limit when and where people may protest at funerals all because of a small fundamentalist Kansas church whose members picket soldiers' burials, arguing that Americans are dying for a country that harbors homosexuals.
During the 1990s, the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., went around picketing the funerals of AIDS victims with protest signs that read, "God Hates Fags." But politicians began paying more attention recently when church members started showing up at the burials of soldiers and Marines killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Legislation is being considered in at least 14 states, and several of the bills moving quickly, with backing from legislative leaders and governors.
If they pass, the bills could set up a clash between privacy and free speech rights, and court challenges are almost certain.
"We're not proposing to silence the speech of the Westboro Baptist Church, as offensive as most of us find that," said Kansas Senate Majority Leader Derek Schmidt, a Republican. Instead, he said, he is trying to achieve a balance that respects "the rights of families to bury their dead in peace."
The church has about 75 members, most of them belonging to the extended family of Westboro Baptist's pastor, the Rev. Fred Phelps. The church is an independent congregation that preaches a literal reading of the Bible.
Shirley Phelps-Roper, Phelps' daughter and an attorney for the church, said states cannot interfere with their message that the soldiers were struck down by God because they were fighting for a country that harbors homosexuals and adulterers.
Lawmakers are "trying to introduce something that will make them feel better about the holes we're punching in the facade they live under," Phelps-Roper said. "If they pass a law that gets in our way, they will be violating the Constitution, and we will sue them for that."
Among the states considering such measures: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
Some of the bills specify noisy, disruptive behavior or signs with "fighting words," as in Wisconsin. Some bar protests within one or two hours before or after a funeral starts; others specify distances ranging from 10 car lengths to five blocks away; some include both.
Violations can bring fines of a few hundred dollars, up to 30 days in jail, or more. Wisconsin is calling for fines of up to $10,000; one of five Oklahoma bills would set a one-year jail sentence.
Missouri's bill was named for Army Spc. Edward Lee Myers, 21, whose wife went to his funeral an hour early to try to avoid protesters. They were already across the road, holding signs that read "God Hates Fags" and "God Made IEDs," a reference to roadside bombs.............
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I lived in Lawrence, KS, known as a "gay friendly" town. Phelps was often there picketing. He usuallly had police protection. Nobody ever did much to him. One person in Topeka alleged ran a car into him or near him as I recall and the jury acquitted her. A student threw a bucket of water on him of at KU one time I think. But for the most part, he is largely ignored. I won't be surprised if he sends you some hate mail if he sees your post. Probably call you a satanic fag lover or something. The other thing this reminded me of is that at least one of his children, who was estranged, wrote a memoir of growing up with him, which I don't think made him too happy, and which was available to buy at Kinko's in the region for awhile. I think maybe the alt paper Pitch Weekly in KC did a piece on it ... anyway, he was part of the local scene ... a household word there ... my wife had one of the locally popular "Phuk Phred" bumper stickers on her car for awhile ... well, Phuk Phred.
you're right dear mr shock, the 'reverend' phelps and i would NOT get along at all. i WISH i believed in hell because i sure as shite would LOVE to be (outside the gate) when he gets his sorry azz booted there (i know a contradiction, but you get my point)
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