did you ever yell "YOU LIE" at king george or the big dick? i'm just curious here. that's all. just asking. it was a question.
un EFFING believable
The Republican Response, Arriving a Little Early
By Dana Milbank
As President Obama addressed a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night, the nation's rapidly deteriorating discourse hit yet another low.
It happened at 8:40 pm, just after the president vowed to lawmakers that his health-care reform proposals would not provide benefits to illegal immigrants. As millions of Americans watched from home, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) shouted at the president from his fifth-row seat: "You lie!"
Murmurs of "ooh" filled the stunned chamber. Nancy Pelosi's chin dropped. Obama moved on to the next sentence in his speech, about how no federal money would be used to fund abortion. "Not true!" came another shout..............
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Above all, though, was Wilson's effrontery. From the reaction in the chamber -- one Democrat could be heard calling for him to be thrown out -- Wilson knew he had stepped in it. He shrugged, then consulted his BlackBerry. He puffed out his cheeks to exhale and licked his lips.
Toward the end of Obama's speech, the text of which was handed out before the congressman's outburst, was a fitting rebuke of the sort of behavior Wilson had just exhibited. When "we can no longer even engage in a civil conversation with each other over the things that truly matter," Obama said, "we don't merely lose our capacity to solve big challenges. We lose something essential about ourselves."........
this isn't a high school student government here. this isn't russia back in the 'shoe' days, this isn't one of those lands where our highly elected officials in dc get into fist fights and shouting matches. we have a lawfully elected president. he should be MUST be allowed the dignity to speak without interruption or heckling. disagree all you want AFTER he is finished. if i was on the floor when king george was speaking, NO MATTER HOW MANY LIES came out of that mouth, i'd not heckle him (and i don't believe obama lied by the way. i DO believe king george lied). what the fuck is WRONG with these people (by these people i mean the republicans)? are they SO fucking afraid of brown skin they'll sabotage everything that's going on in this country? really.
In Lawmaker’s Outburst, a Rare Breach of Protocol
By CARL HULSE
WASHINGTON — It was a rare breach of the protocol that governs ritualistic events in the Capitol.
In an angry and very audible outburst, Representative Joe Wilson, Republican of South Carolina, interrupted President Obama’s speech Wednesday night with a shout of “You lie!”
His eruption — in response to Mr. Obama’s statement that Democratic health proposals would not cover illegal immigrants — stunned members of both parties in the House chamber.
Democrats said it showed lack of respect for the office of the presidency and was reminiscent of Republican disruptions at recent public forums on health care.
“It is outrageous,” said Representative Joseph Crowley, Democrat of New York, who said it reminded him of the “antics that are being used to disrupt and fog what is going on.”.........pic:
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I do think they are afraid of brown skin. And if it was Bush making a speech to our kids at school, despite the fact that I despise him, it would have been a similar speech as that of Obama's, I mean what are they going to say to a bunch of kids? I would have sent my kid, I would have demanded his respect. It is his president no matter what and he will respect that office and when he grows and can vote, he can have his opinions. But he will respect the office of the President of the United States no matter who is sitting in the chair until then.
In the interest of full disclosure, I will confess that, during George II's State of the Union address in 2004, I was reaaaally hoping the Democrats, led by Hillary Clinton as Victor Laszlo, would spontaneously stand up and start singing the Marseillaise, because the text of Bush's speech was basically Die Wacht am Rhein.
No such luck, though. Which is a shame, because then Cheney could've gone on Fox News and said "Yes vee know zat Vashington is honeycombed viss traitors", and it would all have made perfect sense. Lost opportunity there...
Stray: Wow...you just tied it all together...the whole thing. I see it all so clearly now. Damn.
Indeed...a lost opportunity
stray, i don't know about mi, but i sure want to have a cup o' steamin' coffee (or a beverage of your choice) with you if you're ever in the hood
i can't imagine what is going around in your noggin
mostly fluff, but hopefully fluff of a decent quality.
Anyway my point being that I think disruptions of Presidential addresses are fine but they have to earn their place. So is linking the President to the tenets of National Socialism in public forums, if the facts bear out the theory. But the action has to merit the public's time and attention. Otherwise the only response is of the "Gandhi would have smacked you in the head" variety...
I would totally be up for coffee...but I have learned NOT to drink while reading the blog...to many times I have almost shot hot beverages through my nose here. ;)
i keep forgetting NOT to drink whilst reading but i HAVE been better of late
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