i wanted to link up to this article

i in NO WAY am a proponent of torture. when one uses horrid methods one gets results which are NOT reliable. if you're being tortured you'll say just about anything (you think your torturers) THEY want to hear.

this article is from another point of view. it's from the point of view of "THEM"

an american solider who was in iraq, an isreali and a brit who was in northern ireland

(amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me................

i once was lost but now i'm found...........was blind but now i see............)

The Tortured Lives of Interrogators
Veterans of Iraq, N. Ireland and Mideast Share Stark Memories


By Laura Blumenfeld Washington Post Staff Writer

CHICAGO -- The American interrogator was afraid. Of what and why, he couldn't say. He was riding the L train in Chicago, and his throat was closing.
In Iraq, when Tony Lagouranis interrogated suspects, fear was his friend, his weapon. He saw it seep, dark and shameful, through the crotch of a man's pants as a dog closed in, barking. He smelled it in prisoners' sweat, a smoky odor, like a pot of lentils burning. He had touched fear, too, felt it in their fingers, their chilled skin trembling.........

..........."I tortured people," said Lagouranis, 37, who was a military intelligence specialist in Iraq from January 2004 until January 2005. "You have to twist your mind up so much to justify doing that."
Being an interrogator, Lagouranis discovered, can be torture. At first, he was eager to try coercive techniques. In training at Fort Huachuca, Ariz., instructors stressed the Geneva Conventions, he recalled, while classmates privately admired Israeli and British methods. "The British were tough," Lagouranis said. "They seemed like real interrogators.".............