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Monday, January 07, 2008

another one where i'm going to beg you

to get on your knees and pray it's NOT true.

over the past couple of days i've been reading about an iraqi soldier who was on a mission with american soldiers, shooting the americans. the us didn't release that info at first. then they did. then the story changed a bit after that. now, from another source this: some claims the americans were shot by the iraqi soldier because they were attacking a pregnant woman. the iraqi asked them to stop (allegedly. i'm not sure what i believe here. as i said, i am PRAYING THIS VERSION IS NOT TRUE) they didn't so he shot them.

i'm not apt to believe the iraqis but i'm not very apt to believe the americans either. as mulder would say, the truth is out there (and as i'll add, i don't think we will ever really know what it is)

Did An Iraqi Soldier Kill US Troops for Kicking a Pregnant Woman?
Posted by Siun , Firedoglake
Yesterday there were a flurry of reports about an Iraqi soldier shooting and killing two US soldiers during a joint mission. Reported as the first time this has happened, the reports in the American press may tell only half the story.
The rather startled reports repeated assertions that the attack was for "reasons unknown." Iraqi reports say the US soldiers were kicking a pregnant Iraqi woman when shot. Here's what we've been able to learn so far.
On December 26, two American soldiers were killed during a "joint Iraqi-U.S. patrol undertaking security duty in al-Haramat area, western Mosul."..........

...............Aswat Al Iraq provided the initial lead that there was more that was not being reported here:
The U.S. side denied that this Iraqi soldier opened fire at U.S. servicemen because they sexually harassed an Iraqi girl,, affirming that the scene where the incident took place was void of any civilians. (emph added)
Thanks to help from
Dubhaltach of GorillasGuides who has looked at the Arabic media for us, we have the following additional information from several sources including Yagen and Al Akhbar (Lebanon):
The reports are that during searching the woman's house the Americans assaulted her and when she was on the ground started to kick. The soldier who is named Caesar Saadi Al-Jibouri asked them to stop beating her and when via interpreter they refused saying that could do as they wished he went to one of the patrol vehicles and opened fire. (via email)
Dubhaltach mentions that the Iraqi soldier's name identifies him as a member of one of the tribes involved in the "awakening" (that oh so successful Petraeus surge tactic of paying $300 per month to members of Sunni tribes to fight on the American occupation side):
Caesar Saadi Al-Jibouri means he is from the al-Jubouri tribe. He is from Al-Qiara which is a very "hot" area. It likely therefore that he is indeed a "concerned citizen" fighter and one moreover who at the very least knows people who have fought Americans.
and that the US Army statement to Aswat Al Iraq that the area was "void of any civilians" is belied by the actual location:
The incident took place during a search operation being carried out in Al-Siha (that is a district where the invaders are unpopular to put it mildly, Al Siha is on the right side of the river bank.) However the report says they were conducting operations prior to establishing a combat outpost. You do not establish combat outposts in unpopulated areas in or around a city you are attempting to subdue. I find it difficult therefore to believe that the area was "void of civilians" (via email).............

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