This Is What Waterboarding Looks Like
Senate passes Bush detainee bill (and i'm not surprised to tell you one of my senators, da liebs, was one of 12 democrats to vote FOR this insidious bill)
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A good part of America died yesterday. God have mercy on us all. How long before they start coming for just those who oppose their policies?
I linked to the same picture...my good old Senator voted for the bill and he is a democrat!
da liebs (one of my senators, a 'democrat' as well) voted for it too donviti
b b, i can foresee that in the future. the knock on my door...................
the argument being propogated by our right-wing friends is that waterboarding does no lasting physical damage, therefore it's not torture.
I trained at Fairchild AFB under the SERE program for flight crews. In that program they 'demonstrated' to us this torture technique. Personally, I lasted less than 20 seconds. It's torture. Seriously.
Rape does no lasting physical damage. I wonder if they think that's not a torture technique as well.
cv rick, ask any cop who has to be maced in a training exercise........ask any firefighter who has to endure smoke in a training session, it's TORTURE and like what you had to endure, it was in a controlled circumstance.
torture is torture. when we read or hear or see OUR people being tortured by 'THEM' we call them savages. who is the REAL savage here?
Rose,
I disagree with your comparisons in this case. Cops and Firefighters train for macing and smoke inhalation not because it's torture, but because those are the real-world conditions in which they are required to perform their duties. It's a matter of environmental tolerance increasing with exposure.
We were trained to endure torture, not because we'd have to perform our job functions while enduring such treatment (our job functions cease upons capture - for all practical purposes with the exception of Survive, Endure, Resist, Escape), but because it gives the military a measure to know our weaknesses and their information exposure should we be compromised as well as giving all involved a voluntary chance to back out of that job and training.
I hold no illusions that torture doesn't work. It does work. However, I believe that my country is a form of democracy and that means that it exists as a composite of all its citizens. I am one of those citizens, therefore my country is part of me and I am part of it - - my soul comprises part of this nation. I don't believe that its good for a soul to torture and I believe the nation is compromising its soul and subsequently my soul by doing so.
cv rick, i didn't articulate what i wanted to say - correctly. of course i agree with you.
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