or how 'good' she has been in the past. to NOT send a 50 year old man to prison for abusing a 12 or 13 year old is WRONG. it's just wrong. some articles have pointed out there is more to the story we don't know. i believe that - i believe there is a LOT to the story we don't know BUT i still believe this PREDATOR deserves to do his time IN prison. a 'study' was done of him (so the article claims) and he was found NOT to be a pedophile. what do YOU call sexual contact between an adult and a 12 or 13 year old?
Colleagues defend Sidney judge
By DIANE WETZEL , The North Platte Telegraph
North Platte colleagues of embattled Cheyenne County District Judge Kristine Cecava are speaking out in her defense.Cecava's sentencing last month of convicted sex offender Richard Thompson to 10 years intense supervised probation on two counts of felony child sexual assault has created a national uproar, with extensive coverage on network television and talk radio. The media has focused on Cecava's comment regarding Thompson's "physical size," and her statement that, "I don't think you will do well in prison."Thompson is five feet, one inch tall.Cecava also referred to Thompson's "basic ability to cope with people, and quite frankly, I shake to think of what might happen to you in prison."
Lindemeier said Cecava listens to both sides of any case."She weighs many factors, but always takes a close interest in how an individual's actions have affected the victim and the community."Lindemeier said Cecava takes her responsibility to the law seriously."She recognizes what a horror child abuse is," Lindemeier wrote. "Studies have been done that show community corrections can be a much more effective way of handing offenders while saving taxpayer dollars."Programs for sex offenders on probation have rigid requirements, Lindemeier said. .........
community corrections are a more effective way to handle offenders that rape are are pedophiles? I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT. well, i just DON'T believe it. AT ALL as a matter of fact. this judge may just be the best judge in the world but she made a mistake.
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If the man is a pedaphile...put him away!
If the judge is found to be incompetent, or competent, matters not, what matters is not allowing such monsters to roam free and affect our children in any way shape or form.
Rehabilitation? Ain't gonna happen.
glenda, yes there is a petition going around in nebraska for her removal. i don't know if it will get anywhere or not. judges are human, they make mistakes. it doesn't count so much when i make one. it counts when she does (well in THIS case it does)
poetryman - i agree with you rehabilitation for a rapist OR pedophile is impossible. it cannot be done
I really like your blog, it's interesting and unique. Hope to see more of you.
Peace.
Okay, this might cause a stir, but it's true, and relevant, so I'm obliged.
If my prayers had been answered when I was 7 years old, Ms. X (who taught the first grade class that I had the misfortune of not attending) would have had her nasty little way with me. I don't even want to BEGIN to tell you what was going on in my head at 10, 11, 12, etc. etc.
I can only imagine what would have happened has Ms. X, then queen of my heart, actually lived up to my dreams (of course, she was never even aware of my existence as far as I could tell). The old P and M would have been outraged, the entire school system, outraged, the entire county, outraged.
I think only Prodigy was around then, so the internet wouldn't quite have been as outraged as the present case.
Sure, in this case, it wouldn't have been coercive, because--rock star that I am--would have become a man far sooner than most.
I, of course, am not excusing the judge, the man, I'm just trying to add a bit of perspective. But to honestly answer your question, if I had been 12 or 13, then Ms. X would most definitely NOT have been a pedophile, but my Supreme Mistress of All Things Bacchus.
I won't pretend to understand "girls" or "womyn", but I do wonder if there's a difference there (I could say a definitive "yes" on evolutionary grounds, but I'll spare you!).
See I get sick of hearing about how older women are doing boys some kind of a favor. I am sick of these women being held to a different standard. What the hell do you know at SEVEN about what you want sexually or emotionally? Give me a fucking break.
Are you suggesting an age of consent in first grade? there has to be standards even if YOU thought it would answer your prayers. law is law and must be universally applicable.
We need to stop acting like pedophiles are to be either pitied or championed. You cannot and SHOULD not impose your ideas about baby sex onto society.
The law should fucking come down as hard as possible on child rapists and abusers. Stop trying to rationalize it with intellectual bullshit and mythology and stupidity. Had you been abused against your will by a person in power, would you have liked it? To be sodomized by a man at seven?
or is rape only ok if your rapist is hot or matches your fantasy?????
Should rapists send a picture before they rape? You're retarded.
no6 i don't think you're retarded i think you're misguided on this subject. VERY much so. there IS no joking in my life about this subject. i've lived it first hand.
having a fantasy is ONE thing (even at a young age). having it come to fruition is another. it IS rape even at 12 or 13 if it's with an adult. it just is. period.
ms x indeed would have been a pedophile. she is in a position of power. she was your teacher. you were a young boy with hormones shooting through you. you didn't KNOW as much as she did. if she touched you she would have been guilty EVEN IF YOU WANTED HER TO.
elizabeth, both no6 and rory said things on this subject i'd go after them for if we were sitting face to face. i consider both of them to be friends and i consider both of them to be as i said above VERY misguided. it's not going to do me any good to think ill of either of them. i don't
7oneders thank you for stopping by!
Egads! I am not "championing rapists" or "pitying them" or "advocating the fucking of 7 year olds" (the lattermost quote was from back at home). I predicted such a reactionary response would transpire, which is why I prefaced the comment with "this is gonna torque people off"...which should have included "...who aren't going to actually mull over this". I've divided my response into two portions, but I do hope that both of you read both of them.
Mz. Branford:
"Older women doing boys some kind of favor", as regretfully used as a joke, is textbook machismo BS. I sincerely apologize for all of the failed jokes that were taken seriously. I should have clearly stated where I stand on the issue, then proceeded to be myself. I think the present, arbitrary age of 18 does well enough as a starting point at which one is legally rendered an adult. The statuatory stuff is obscene in many cases
Sorry if I beg to differ, however, on the idea that I had no idea what I was feeling or thinking at the age of 7, let alone 10-13 (or now for that matter). I'm not even suggesting that I wouldn't have been traumatized by the fantastically impossible event of Ms. X doing anything questionable. What I was trying to do, was explain how such "episodes" might transpire. I might have been naive, impulsive, and even "retarded", but I knew the difference between a crush and, well, you know.
Of course I'm not advocating the age of consent to be so young! I see how you were quick to make this assumption (yet prudent enough to articulate it as a question), but it's not true. As for your "pitied vs. championed" dichotomy, I think it, like other false dichotomies, stems from a lack of both a) understanding and b) a willingness to understand the problem. Sorry to "intellectualize", but I try to refrain from my passions getting the better of my thinking (the "mythology" WAS "stupidity", i.e. a joke, one which, again, I apologize for).
I don't quite see how being "sodomized by a man at 7" can possibly be even remotely compared to what I was talking about. But the following question you pose is a little closer, if rhetorical. Still, though, anyone can be raped by someone who they might fancy or "match one's fantasy", but if they didn't want to have sex, then it's rape. Sorry for "being retarded" for trying to think about the issue, rather than not. It seems that not thinking about issues like this probably causes more harm than good, which is why I opened my mouth to begin with.
Rose:
Thanks for the defense. I'll take "misguided" over "retarded" any day.
Rose, I've lived enough to know that molesting a child deserves serious punishment. Serious punishment. I will say that it has serious, serious, deleterious effects on those who have suffered from rape. If I know anything at all, it is this. I deeply apologize, too, for being silly, and now that I am aware of this boundary, I promise it will not be exploited in the future.
I do understand the difference between fantasy and reality, just as I understand the difference between *willingness* and *unwillingness*. My point was that if indeed Ms. X (who was actually a teacher that I'd spy on during recess, not my actual teacher) had done anything, the idea of her prison term being the same as an adult who coerced someone else wouldn't be fair for Ms. X. The law might say otherwise, but that doesn't make it fair. As I've read the papers about similar things actually getting carried out, I actually understand how it could happen and that's why I mentioned it in the first place. Again, I understand that rape and willingness are like oil and water.
As for her "position of power", reflecting back to my sentiments at the time, I still have to maintain the fact that it wouldn't have been coercive. I might still be disillusioned after all of these years, but I doubt it. Again, not making an excuse or apology, but my supposed inability to make a sound decision at this age--I'm talking GENERALLY HERE--hasn't stopped, and I find it difficult to believe that any arbitrary "line" of age it any sort of accurate point at which people start making sound decisions.
All of this said, these are clearly very personal concerns for everyone. But I do think that they need to be understood. I actually agree with Mz. Branford about universalism, which is why I tried to introduce what I see as a problem inherent in applying universals. I consider myself a universalist, but the laws and moral standards that are universal had better be sophisticated and actually attempt to ensapsulate the very real problems without the inclusion of what I would say are extenuating circumstances. I have no idea how rare or frequent these are, I'm just trying to demonstrate that the issue cannot be black and white simply because the laws might be.
I hope this cleared everything up or at the very least successfully prevents future unneccessary indictments.
we have a case in connecticut going on RIGHT now. a 29 year old MALE music teacher was accused of sleeping with a 16 year old female student and he's facing sexual assault charges: see the following articles
Teacher Fights Sex Statute
Lawsuit Raises Question Of Rights, Responsibilities
The slippery slope
BUT he just filed a suit and said HIS RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED. his constitutional right of privacy as a matter of fact.
now the grrrl is 16 and i guess that is the age of consent in connecticut. i do NOT give a shite. the male is a MAN and she's a grrrl. he was in a position of power and he USED that power to have sex with this grrrl. nothing more JUST SEX. that is reprehensible. there is a REASON there are laws about teachers and students.
this happens to be a male teacher and female student but it doesn't matter to me which way or what genders those involved are. it is JUST WRONG.
i'm still steaming about that very pretty (florida i believe) blonde woman teacher NOT HAVING TO DO TIME after being convicted of sleeping with one of her BOY students. do you think she would have had to do time if she was NOT so pretty? the answer is most likely yes she would have.
i'm wandering here but i do want to say it's one thing when two 16 year olds sleep together and it's ANOTHER thing when a 16 year old and a 29 year old sleep together especially if that 29 year old is a person with power over the 16 year old
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