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Wednesday, April 12, 2006

what do YOU think about pornography?

well first off, i'm not exactly sure what IS pornography and what is 'art'. secondly i enjoy looking at certain type of pictures, paintings, renderings. i should point out that i do not lead a 'conventional' lifestyle either. no i'm not a black lesbian sleeping with my son's boyfriend's father (too much jerry springer, forgive me). all i will say is; i am a dominant woman.

i ran across this article in the guardian and that's what has me mentioning pornography

do i think some women are exploited and abused (in the industry) ABSOLUTELY. do i think some women CHOOSE the industry on their own BUT for (what i deem of course) the WRONG reasons? YUP i sure do. do i think some women who are in the industry made a sound decision by being in the industry? well, that one is a bit tricky. i know some dancers and i can tell you i don't like a LOT of the things they do (the big one is soliciting money from men. NOT necessarily as a prostitute but fawning over them just to get a few bucks. this is OUTSIDE of the work environment mind you). look for my movie review (i hope to do it this weekend) of dancing at the blue iguana). it's on this very same subject

i can tell you i am fascinated by andrea dworkin. since there is far too much to say on her, i'm not going to do it here and now. i will say i liked a FEW things about her but overall i think andrea was a bit of a mmmmmmmmmm she has passed so i want to be a bit kinder than normal. she was a bit of a flake


Are women human? In her new book, leading feminist Catharine MacKinnon argues that women are still treated more like "things" than people. She talks to Stuart Jeffries about her war on pornography - and whether men and women can ever really connect
Wednesday April 12, 2006The Guardian
Of all the provocative passages in Catharine MacKinnon's new book Are Women Human? the following hit me hardest. She writes: "[T]he fact that the law of rape protects rapists and is written from their point of view to guarantee impunity for most rapes is officially regarded as a violation of the law of sex equality, national or international, by virtually nobody."
Are you suggesting that rape law enshrines rapists' points of view, I ask MacKinnon? "Yes, in a couple of senses. The most obvious sense is that most rapists are men and most legislators are men and most judges are men and the law of rape was created when women weren't even allowed to vote. So that means not that all the people who wrote it were rapists, but that they are a member of the group who do [rape] and who do for reasons that they share in common even with those who don't, namely masculinity and their identification with masculine norms and in particular being the people who initiate sex and being the people who socially experience themselves as being affirmed by aggressive initiation of sexual interaction." She takes a well-earned breath.
Why does MacKinnon matter? She is undeniably one of feminism's most significant figures, a ferociously tough-minded lawyer and academic who has sought to use the law to clamp down on sexual harassment and pornography. She's a bracing woman, who calls her philosophy "feminism unmodified" and thinks wimpish guff such as post-feminism does women no good at all. Many hate her for this. Camille Paglia, for instance, charges that MacKinnon and her late collaborator Andrea Dworkin are responsible for "totalitarian excesses" in sexual harassment regulations and that their "nightmarish sexual delusions" have invaded American workplaces and schools and warped their views on pornography. Naomi Wolf branded her a "victim feminist". "Victim feminism," claims Wolf, "urges women to identify with powerlessness, even at the expense of taking responsibility for the power they do possess." ..........

2 comments:

Rory Shock said...

hey rose ... I posted a comment here earlier today ... least I thought I did ... but now I don't see it ... it was along the lines of I don't really see sexual harassment regulations as creating a totalitarian workplace ... other things might, but not these regs ... I've worked plenty of different places and it seems to me that the anti-sexual harassment regs have been pretty positive overall in terms of making life more decent ... like OSHA regs these regs came into existence because of a lot of bad shit, which has been reduced ...

Unknown said...

mr shock, i wasn't so much thinking about sexual harassment as outright pornography. working for a corporation as i do, i know about the training classes and think it's a GOOD thing. BUT some people will NEVER get it no matter what. i also believe it's not so much WHAT is done, but WHO is doing it. i may let person "a" put their arm around me and not mind one bit but if person "b" tried it, i might get ALL SKEEVED out. it's hard to explain but i know most women (i hate to separate the genders here but i must) get it